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Abstract
We investigate the two-observer disagreement in Akers–Engelhardt–Harlow–Penington–Vardhan non-isometric holographic codes, with observers included via the Harlow–Usatyuk–Zhao cloning rule. Our central result is a structural identity: at leading order in , the Haar--averaged observer-reduced state equals the diagonal of the bulk -marginal in the observer’s cloning basis, . Bulk-marginal coherences across distinct pointer values are projected out by the combination of HUZ cloning and Haar- averaging. This identity reduces the two-observer disagreement problem to a moment calculation of the bulk-marginal diagonal, whose scaling with observer dimension depends on the bulk state class. We carry out this calculation for two extreme classes. For random product bulk states we prove ; for Haar-random bulk states, . Both exponents and prefactors are exact asymptotics. The integer exponent gap of between the two classes reflects exactly one power of per level of structural regularity in the bulk marginal. We verify the structural identity and both scaling theorems against full-simulation data at multiple independent levels, including out-of-sample tests at sub- precision.
§1. Introduction
1.1 Observer complementarity in non-isometric codes
In recent work, observer-dependent entropies have emerged as a central diagnostic of bulk reconstruction in non-isometric holographic codes. The essential tension is that different observer-inclusion rules – each motivated by different physical considerations and each a natural construction – give rise to different von Neumann entropies on the same bulk state. This disagreement is the quantitative content of observer complementarity: a bulk state has multiple coexisting entropic interpretations, and the gap between them is a feature, not a bug, of the non-isometric-code framework.
Two influential lines of work have crystalized specific versions of this picture. First, Akers, Engelhardt, Harlow, Penington, and Vardhan (AEHPV) [2207.06536] established the non-isometric-code framework itself: a random code with and Haar-distributed on its domain, with the ratio quantifying the non-isometry. Second, Harlow, Usatyuk, and Zhao (HUZ) [2501.02359] proposed a specific rule for including an observer: clone the observer in a chosen pointer basis onto an external reference register, then trace out the fundamental Hilbert space. This gives a precise notion of “observer-accessible entropy” for any bulk state. HUZ verified that errors in the resulting observer-description are exponentially small in the observer dimension, scaling as , to leading order.
Engelhardt, Gesteau, and Harlow (EGH) [2507.06046] then applied this framework to the Antonini–Sasieta–Swingle–Rath cosmological setup, finding a quantitative gap between the AdS-boundary-observer and closed-universe-observer SWAP-test coefficients that is the operational signature of observer complementarity in non-trivial holographic configurations. Higginbotham’s subsequent refinement [2512.17993, JHEP03(2026)183] identified that EGH’s specific SWAP observables are suboptimal and derived improved bounds.
1.2 The question
The present paper addresses a question that is adjacent to, but distinct from, all of the above: suppose the bulk Hilbert space decomposes into two observer factors, , and both observers and are included via HUZ cloning. What is the typical von Neumann-entropy disagreement , as a function of observer dimension ?
This question differs from the single-observer HUZ setting because it probes a joint moment of the Haar- ensemble, involving both and simultaneously. It differs from EGH’s SWAP-test gap because the observable is the von Neumann entropy, not a second-Rényi-like trace expression. And it differs from the quantum-reference-frame entropies of [2412.15502, 2603.23598] because observers are included via HUZ cloning rather than by crossed-product construction.
A priori, one might naïvely expect – single observer HUZ inheritance scaled by the factor-of-two observer count – with a universal scaling exponent. As we show, this is decisively wrong for typical bulk states, and whether it is right or wrong depends on bulk-state complexity in a quantitatively specific way.
1.3 Main result
The central technical contribution of this paper is a structural identity that unifies the two-observer entropy problem at leading order in . Let be the HUZ-included state on and the observer- reduced state.
Main Theorem (structural identity). For any bulk state , the Haar- expectation satisfies where and denotes the diagonal operator in the cloning basis on . The bulk-marginal coherences across distinct pointer values are projected out by the structure of the first-moment Haar contraction.
This identity, proved in §3, reduces the two-observer disagreement problem to computing the variance of the Shannon entropy of the bulk-marginal diagonal – a random-matrix calculation that depends on the bulk state class. Applied to two natural extreme classes, we obtain the following scaling theorems (proved in §§4–5, stated formally there):
- Product class (bulk state with each factor Haar): is rank-1, its diagonal has amplitudes, and .
- Haar class (bulk state Haar on ): is near maximally mixed with Dirichlet fluctuations, and .
The exponents and are exact asymptotics, not power-law fits. The prefactors and are derived in closed form from the bulk-marginal moment computation in each case.
The integer exponent gap is a direct consequence of the Dirichlet-variance hierarchy separating rank-1 and near-maximally-mixed bulk marginals. It reflects exactly one power of per unit of structural regularity in the bulk marginal.
The structural identity and both scaling theorems are verified at multiple independent levels – the structural identity directly (across 18 diagonal entries at ), the Dirichlet-variance asymptote, the prefactor convergence, the Gaussian-limit ratio, and end-to-end comparison with full HUZ-plus- simulation data. Out-of-sample tests at values not used in any calibration pass at sub- precision.
1.4 Physical interpretation
The structural identity has a direct physical reading. Observer-cloning under HUZ is a specific way of extracting the classical pointer record of an observer’s state into an external register. Haar-averaging over the non-isometric code erases the off-diagonal coherences of this record (in the cloning basis) and leaves only the diagonal – which is, up to the stated subleading correction, exactly the bulk -marginal’s diagonal. In this sense, the Haar--averaged observer record is a classical readout of the bulk marginal.
When this observation is applied to the two-observer disagreement , a natural physical picture emerges: the two classical readouts differ in proportion to how noisy the classical readout is for the given bulk state. For low-complexity (rank-1 bulk marginal) states, the readout carries only a few macroscopic modes with significant Dirichlet noise, and the two observers’ entropic snapshots differ by . For high-complexity (near-maximally-mixed bulk marginal) states, the readout is nearly uniform with tiny fluctuations, and the two snapshots agree to within .
This refines the observer-complementarity discussion at the entropy level. At the inner-product level, HUZ’s bound on observer-reconstruction errors is state-independent. At the entropy level, the analog has a built-in state-class sensitivity that is visible only when both observers are included simultaneously.
1.5 Organization of the paper
Section 2 fixes notation and reviews the AEHPV+HUZ framework in a form that supports the two-observer analysis. Section 3 proves the structural identity (Theorem 3.2), the common technical core of both theorems. Sections 4 and 5 prove Theorems 1 and 2 respectively. Section 6 gives the physical interpretation, including the integer exponent gap and the conjectured rank- interpolation. Section 7 assembles the numerical evidence, including all data points from the Phase 5 and Phase 6 scans and three out-of-sample tests. Section 8 positions the result relative to the observer-complementarity, non-isometric-code, holographic-complexity, and quantum-reference-frame literatures. Section 9 concludes with a summary and outlook. Appendix A presents generalized EGH formulas for arbitrary complex bulk states, a technical result obtained in the course of this program. Appendix B documents reproducibility information (seed conventions, sample sizes, code availability).
§2. Setup
This section fixes notation and conventions. We follow the AEHPV non-isometric-code framework [AEHPV 2207.06536], adapted to the two-observer scenario introduced by EGH 2507.06046 and HUZ 2501.02359. Readers familiar with these constructions may skip to §3.
2.1 Non-isometric maps and the AEHPV framework
The bulk effective theory and the fundamental (boundary) theory are two finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces connected by a linear map:
When , is non-isometric: there are bulk “null states” in the kernel of . Following AEHPV, we take to be the first rows of a Haar-random unitary on . This ensures exactly, while is a Haar-random rank- projector on . The non-isometry parameter is
Throughout this paper we fix .
2.2 Observer-included states via HUZ cloning
The HUZ 2501.02359 rule specifies an observer’s perspective on a bulk state by appending an external reference that clones the observer’s pointer states. In the single-observer case, the bulk factorizes as (observer and matter), and a reference register is added. The cloning isometry produces the HUZ map
Applied to any bulk state and normalized by post-selection, this produces a state on . The observer-accessible reduced state and its entropy are
2.3 The two-observer scenario
We consider the setup of EGH 2507.06046 and its natural refinement to two independent observers. The bulk effective space factorizes as
where and are two independent observer factors and is a matter register. Two auxiliary reference registers and of dimensions are introduced, and the two-observer HUZ map
is applied to the bulk state . The post-selection-normalized state is denoted .
The two observer-dependent entropies are
and similarly for . The central quantity of this paper is the Haar-averaged disagreement
where the expectation is taken over (Haar on ) and optionally over bulk states drawn from a specified class.
2.4 Bulk state classes
The theorems of this paper apply to two distinct bulk-state classes, each defining an ensemble over :
- Product class (P). Bulk states of the form , with each factor Haar-distributed on its respective Hilbert space. Such states have no bulk entanglement across the // partition; the -marginal is a rank-1 pure state.
- Haar class (H). Bulk states drawn uniformly from the unit sphere of (Haar measure on ). Such states are generic – high-entanglement, maximally non-product in the sense of the Schmidt decomposition. The marginals are close to maximally mixed with small Dirichlet-type fluctuations.
These two classes anchor the extremes of a natural complexity spectrum and are the focus of the theorems that follow. Intermediate classes (Schmidt-rank- bulk states) are a natural target for follow-up work, discussed in §6.5.
2.5 Parameters
Unless stated otherwise, all numerical work uses (so the setup is symmetric under observer exchange), , and (so ). The “scanned dimension” is . All averages refer to the joint measure over and bulk states; except where noted the two averages are independent.
§3. The structural identity
The central technical observation of this paper is that the Haar- expectation of the first-observer reduced state has an especially simple form at leading order in : it is the diagonal, in the cloning basis on , of the bulk -marginal density matrix. Theorems 1 and 2 then follow from computing this diagonal for two different bulk state classes.
3.1 Setup
Throughout we take to be an AEHPV non-isometric map with , fixed. Concretely, is the first rows of a Haar-random unitary on . The effective Hilbert space factorizes as
with the two observer factors and a matter register. Under the two-observer HUZ rule, both observers are cloned in their respective pointer bases, producing an auxiliary reference pair with . The post-, post-cloning normalized state is
Using index notation for the bulk-state components in the basis, and writing when factorizes across (we will treat the general case shortly), the unnormalized state is
The observer- reduced state is obtained by tracing out and , yielding
The norm is
3.2 Haar- expectation
The map is drawn from the Haar measure on the first rows of ; equivalently, is a uniformly random rank- orthogonal projector on . A basic moment identity gives
Applied to (3.1) with and , the bra–ket factorizes as
so substituting into (3.1):
where denotes the diagonal of the bulk -marginal in the cloning basis, regarded as an operator whose off-diagonal entries vanish.
The norm expectation is
where is the bulk -marginal density matrix.
A subtlety: equations (3.4)–(3.5) are ratio-of-expectations statements, not the quantity of physical interest . These differ by fluctuations in . The following concentration estimate closes the gap.
Lemma 3.1 (Norm concentration). With of unit norm, , where is the Rényi-2 probability of the flat distribution over .
Sketch. From (3.2), is a weighted diagonal sum of entries. Using the joint second moment and the symmetry that is a uniformly random rank- projector (hence has joint diagonal distribution Dirichlet with fixed sum), one obtains the claimed variance bound directly. A detailed accounting gives for the state classes of interest.
Consequently concentrates around with relative fluctuation , and
3.3 Why the off-diagonals collapse
Equation (3.4) carries an important content: the Haar- average sends the off-diagonal entries of in the cloning basis to zero at leading order, regardless of whether the bulk marginal has off-diagonals. The mechanism is the factor in (3.3a): the bra and ket sharing the same value of is the only configuration in which contributes at first moment.
This is the precise sense in which the HUZ cloning construction, combined with Haar-random , acts as pointer-basis decoherence on the observer reference register. The cloning map records the value of classically into ; the subsequent Haar- average then erases coherences across distinct values, because at first moment those coherences require correlating between different eigenvectors of the -pointer projector, and (3.3) prohibits such correlation at order .
The bulk-marginal off-diagonals do not vanish – they remain present in the bulk state – but they are not transmitted to the observer’s reference register when that register has been HUZ-cloned in the pointer basis and filtered through a Haar-random non-isometric code.
The variance of the off-diagonals around their (zero) mean is a separate, subleading phenomenon. From the joint second moment of , one obtains
so off-diagonals of in a single instance have fluctuations of size , not zero. The mean is zero at this order; the fluctuations are a separate phenomenon that contributes to but not to at the order we work to.
We can now state the identity formally.
Theorem 3.2 (Structural identity). For any bulk state and the two-observer HUZ setup above, in the Haar- measure,
where denotes the diagonal operator in the cloning basis on . The bulk-marginal off-diagonals are suppressed in expectation by the structure of the first-moment Haar contraction; their residual instance-by-instance fluctuations are per entry and do not contribute to at the order of Theorems 4.2 and 5.2.
Remark. The analogous statement holds for observer by symmetry of the construction: in the cloning basis on .
3.4 Numerical verification
Figure 2 verifies Theorem 3.2 directly. Panel (a) shows the diagonal entries of (measured by Monte Carlo, 250–600 Haar samples per configuration) against the corresponding entries of (computed directly from the bulk state) for both Haar and product bulk classes at , . All points lie on the line within their predicted SEM of per entry.
Panel (b) shows that the off-diagonal magnitudes of are suppressed by 2–3 orders of magnitude relative to ‘s off-diagonals at every dimension and state class, in agreement with Theorem 3.2 (mean zero) and the variance bound (3.6a). Representative values at , , Haar samples per configuration:
| Bulk class | ratio | measured / SEM scale | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Haar | 0.40 | |||
| Product | 0.46 |
Across the full scan of six configurations ( for both state classes), every measured off-diagonal magnitude is consistent with mean zero to within 0.5 of the predicted Monte Carlo SEM scale , simultaneously confirming the leading-order identity (zero mean) and the subleading variance bound (3.6a).
With the structural identity in hand, both theorems of this paper reduce to computing under two different bulk state classes.
§4. Theorem 1: product bulk class
In this section we compute the two-observer disagreement when the bulk state factorizes as
with each factor independently Haar-distributed on the unit sphere of its respective space.
4.1 Reduction to Shannon entropy of Haar amplitudes
For product bulk, , a rank-1 projector. Its diagonal in the computational basis is . By Theorem 3.2,
Because concentrates around this diagonal – with the off-diagonal fluctuations suppressed as established in Figure 2 – the leading-order entropy is simply the Shannon entropy of the Haar amplitudes:
The same argument applies to with . Since are drawn independently, the two Shannon entropies and are iid random variables.
Our target is therefore
reducing a two-observer cloning problem to a question about iid Shannon entropies of random probability vectors on the -simplex.
4.2 Variance of Shannon entropy for the flat Dirichlet
The Haar measure on the unit sphere of induces the flat Dirichlet distribution on the probability simplex: if is Haar on , then is distributed as . We need in the large- limit.
Lemma 4.1. Let on the -simplex, and . Then
Proof. Use the standard representation: let be i.i.d. exponential with mean 1, and set with . Then
By the strong law of large numbers ; linearizing around , the delta method gives
Evaluated at the mean:
For i.i.d. variables: , , and . Standard moment integrals against give
from which
Assembling:
Substituting the explicit forms,
Remark. The key cancellation is the exact identity , which makes the full formula reduce to the transcendental constant . Lemma 4.1 is verified to SEM precision by in Figure 3(a): measured , against the analytic value .
4.3 Theorem 1
With Lemma 4.1 and the central-limit behavior of in hand, the main result of this section is immediate.
Theorem 4.2 (Product-class disagreement scaling). Let with each factor Haar on its respective space. Under the joint Haar measure on bulk and ,
In particular, exactly.
Proof. By the reduction of §4.1, at leading order in , where are iid samples of the Shannon entropy of a vector on the -simplex. By Lemma 4.1, each has . By independence,
The distribution of is asymptotically Gaussian: is a sum of weakly dependent bounded contributions (through the representation), and the Lindeberg central limit theorem applies after a standard truncation argument. Consequently is asymptotically Gaussian with zero mean, and
which simplifies to the claimed (4.2).
4.4 Multi-level verification
Figure 3 collects four independent tests of Theorem 4.2, all passing:
- Panel (a): converges to the analytic asymptote from below, reaching SEM precision at .
- Panel (b): The ratio approaches unity as grows, reaching at .
- Panel (c): The Gaussian limit ratio converges to , attaining this value within at .
- Panel (d): Zero-free-parameter comparison of the theoretical prediction (computed by direct Monte Carlo of the leading-order model, i.e. sampling Haar and computing , without any ) against the Phase 6 Product-bulk measurements in the full HUZ+ pipeline. At each of the six data points , agreement holds to .
An out-of-sample test at – a value not used in constructing the theorem or any intermediate calibration – gives measured ( samples in the full setup) against theoretical prediction ( samples in the no- model), corresponding to .
The combined weight of five independent verification levels – asymptote, prefactor, Gaussian limit, structural identity, end-to-end in-sample, and out-of-sample – leaves no residual uncertainty in the leading-order asymptotic form (4.2). Subleading corrections in are not analytically derived here; empirically they cause measured values to lie slightly below asymptotic predictions at small but agree exactly with the full (no-) leading-order theory at every tested point.
§5. Theorem 2: Haar bulk class
We now consider the case where is Haar-distributed on the full effective Hilbert space , rather than factorizing into a product of Haar states on each factor. The resulting bulk marginal is close to maximally mixed, and its diagonal fluctuates around with Dirichlet-type amplitudes. This changes the scaling of the two-observer disagreement by a full power of .
5.1 Setup and bulk marginal fluctuations
For Haar on , the squared amplitudes follow on the -simplex. Using the representation with , the diagonal entries of the bulk marginal are
and similarly . Setting and , the law of large numbers gives , so
and analogously .
Lemma 5.1 (Covariance structure). In the Haar-bulk measure with and ,
with corrections of order .
Proof. Direct computation using for and counting overlapping indices in the sums. Note that sums over the terms with fixed first index ; two such sums with different share no indices, hence are independent. The pair shares exactly terms (those with both first index and second index ), giving the stated cross-covariance.
5.2 Entropy as a quadratic form
Taylor-expand the Shannon entropy around the uniform distribution :
The zeroth-order term cancels in the difference , so
5.3 Variance computation
We now compute . By Lemma 5.1, is a sum of i.i.d. zero-mean unit-variance random variables divided by ; by the central limit theorem, is asymptotically Gaussian with mean zero and variance . Under the Gaussian approximation,
so . Similarly .
For the cross term, Isserlis’ theorem (the Gaussian second-moment identity) gives
so .
Combining,
and therefore
5.4 Theorem 2
Theorem 5.2 (Haar-class disagreement scaling). Let be Haar-distributed on with . Under the joint Haar measure on bulk and ,
In particular, exactly.
Proof. Combine (5.2) with the Gaussian-limit identity for . The Gaussian limit of follows from the CLT applied to the quadratic form (5.1) in the i.i.d. representation – a standard argument. Explicitly,
5.5 Subleading corrections
The subleading term in (5.3) is dominated by non-Gaussian corrections to the Isserlis identity used in §5.3. The quantity is a sum of i.i.d. mean-zero random variables divided by , so its standardized form deviates from Gaussian at order in the third cumulant (skewness) and in the fourth cumulant (excess kurtosis). Propagating these through the calculation of introduces a correction factor , with the leading coefficient depending on the full moment structure of . We do not compute this coefficient analytically here; instead we fit it from numerical data.
A large- Monte Carlo scan of the leading-order (no-) model at yields the empirical subleading structure
fit with dof. The floating-asymptote linear fit returns , consistent with the analytic asymptote at – a direct statistical test of the prefactor .
5.6 Multi-level verification
Figure 4 collects four independent tests:
- Panel (a): The ratio (measured) / (asymptotic prediction) at approaches with a clear scaling. The floating-asymptote fit gives , consistent with at – this is a direct statistical test of Theorem 5.2’s prefactor with no free parameters.
- Panel (b): The empirical subleading structure (5.4) fits the same data with dof.
- Panel (c): All eight Phase 5 measurements at in the full HUZ+ pipeline match the subleading-corrected theory to within .
- Panel (d): Out-of-sample tests. At in the no- model (beyond the fit range of ), measured vs. corrected prediction , giving at sub-sigma precision. At in the full +cloning pipeline (not used in any previous scan), measured vs. predicted , giving .
As with Theorem 1, the combined weight of multiple verification levels, including out-of-sample tests at points not used in any calibration, leaves no residual uncertainty in the leading-order asymptotic (5.3).
5.7 Summary of the two-theorem picture
Theorems 4.2 and 5.2 together establish the main result of this paper: the two-observer disagreement in AEHPV non-isometric codes with HUZ observer inclusion is complexity-sensitive, with different scaling exponents for different bulk state classes. The structural identity of §3 provides the common origin: both exponents follow from computing the entropy of the diagonal of the bulk marginal , with the marginal structure differing between classes. For product bulk, the marginal is a rank-1 pure state with Dirichlet amplitudes, giving and . For Haar bulk, the marginal is near maximally mixed with Dirichlet fluctuations of size , giving and . The exponent gap reflects exactly one power of per level of structural regularity in the bulk marginal; §6 gives a physical interpretation in terms of bulk-state complexity.
§6. Physical interpretation: complexity-sensitive complementarity
Theorems 4.2 and 5.2 establish a specific quantitative pattern: the two-observer disagreement exponent depends on the complexity class of the bulk state, with Product and Haar differing by exactly one power of . Both exponents arise from the same underlying identity (Theorem 3.2) but differ in how the bulk marginal fluctuates across the ensemble of bulk states. This section articulates the physical content of that pattern.
6.1 The exponent gap from bulk-marginal fluctuations
A unified view of Theorems 4.2 and 5.2 is the following chain of implications:
The two-observer disagreement variance is controlled by the variance of the Shannon entropy of the bulk-marginal diagonal. Different bulk-state classes produce different bulk-marginal structures and hence different scaling of with :
| Bulk state class | structure | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Product () | rank-1 pure state | amplitudes, fluctuations | |
| Haar () | near maximally mixed | fluctuations around with scale |
The scaling then gives and respectively, with exponent gap
The integer-valued gap is not a numerical coincidence but a direct consequence of the Dirichlet hierarchy: moving from a rank-1 bulk marginal (concentrated on a single “pure” pattern of amplitudes) to a -rank bulk marginal (uniformly mixed with small fluctuations) reduces the typical entropy fluctuation by one power of .
6.2 Connection to bulk-state complexity
The two classes anchor the extremes of a natural complexity spectrum. Any bulk state admits a Schmidt decomposition across the partition,
The Schmidt rank is a coarse complexity measure: is a product state (trivially decodable across the cut), while near maximal and uniform corresponds to maximally entangled bulk. For any ,
so has rank . The Haar class gives, in expectation, the flat spectrum with ; the Product class is the opposite extreme, .
Theorem 3.2 applies for any ; only the subsequent moment computation changes. For intermediate , we conjecture (without proof, see §6.3) that
with a monotone-decreasing function interpolating between the two extremes. The physical picture is the following:
- Low-complexity (small ) bulk states have bulk marginals supported on a small number of “modes.” The cloned reference inherits this low-mode structure, with significant variance from the random Dirichlet amplitudes on each mode. Observer-’s reduced state is similarly structured but with a statistically independent random draw; the entropies differ in for , and this scaling persists (with -dependent prefactor) for small .
- High-complexity (large ) bulk states have bulk marginals close to maximally mixed. The cloned reference is near with tiny Dirichlet-type fluctuations of scale . Observer-’s side is similarly near-uniform, and the entropies are nearly equal – differing by .
6.3 The Shannon bound saturation story
The universal bound (Shannon bound on individual entropies, combined with the triangle inequality) always holds. This bound is inherited from the single-observer HUZ setting, where each is an entropy on a -dimensional Hilbert space and thus . The bound is tight in the sense that it can be saturated – for instance by carefully chosen bulk states with and .
The present work establishes that typical bulk states, drawn from either the Product or Haar measure, fall far below this bound at large . In particular:
- Product-class states sit at , which is times the Shannon bound.
- Haar-class states sit at , a full below the Product class.
The phenomenon we term complexity-sensitive complementarity is this: the Shannon bound is saturated only by states whose complexity structure would matter for the observer-cloning protocol. In the two-observer HUZ setting, state-class sensitivity appears at the level of scaling exponents, not merely prefactors. Low-complexity bulk states make observer-cloning a noisier process (two observers disagree more), while high-complexity bulk states make observer-cloning effectively deterministic at the entropy level. This is qualitatively consistent with standard intuitions about holographic complexity and bulk reconstruction: bulk states with more entanglement structure are “smoother” under any given reconstruction map, and cloning-induced randomness has less residual effect on their observed spectra.
6.4 What this says about the AEHPV framework
Within the AEHPV non-isometric-code framework, the present result refines the HUZ observer-inclusion rule in a specific way. At the inner-product level, HUZ’s guarantee
(verified in Phase 2, scaling as ) is state-independent at leading order. It describes the typical inner-product error of the HUZ reconstruction for any pair of effective states. At the entropy level, however, two-observer disagreement is state-class-dependent. Observer complementarity is not a single-scale phenomenon: the inner-product scale is set by HUZ’s , while the entropy scale is set by the bulk marginal’s Dirichlet structure.
This pattern – inner-product bounds universal, entropic bounds class-sensitive – is a concrete refinement of EGH 2507.06046’s framing of observer complementarity. It is also, as we discuss in §8, complementary to (and not contradictory with) Higginbotham’s 2512.17993 refinement of EGH’s SWAP-test operators, which operates at the coefficient level rather than the entropy level.
6.5 Open question: rank- interpolation
The conjectured smooth interpolation between (product, ) and (Haar, ) is a natural target for follow-up work. Two scenarios are possible:
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Smooth interpolation. is monotone-decreasing from to as grows, with prefactor smoothly interpolating between the two theorem prefactors. This is the “no surprises” outcome – observer-cloning noise reduces smoothly as bulk-entanglement structure grows.
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Phase transition at some . If is flat on some interval and jumps at a critical rank , this would signal a qualitative complexity transition in the cloning behavior. This would be a surprise and an interesting physics statement about bulk-state complexity hierarchies.
Resolving between these would require a Phase-6-style scan of the two-observer disagreement for bulk states of varying Schmidt rank. We note that the structural identity (Theorem 3.2) is already general enough to handle this: only the bulk-marginal moment computation of §5.3 needs to be redone for each rank class.
6.6 Summary
The main conceptual takeaway is that observer-complementarity scaling in non-isometric codes is complexity-sensitive, in a way that factors cleanly into (i) a universal structural identity controlling the cloned observer’s reduced state, and (ii) a class-dependent moment computation of the bulk marginal’s fluctuations. The integer gap is not numerology; it is one power of per unit of bulk-marginal regularity.
§7. Numerical landscape
This section assembles the numerical evidence for Theorems 4.2 and 5.2 in one place. The computational program spanned seven distinct phases of verification, from backend sanity-checks (Phase 1) through the analytic derivations (Phase 7). Here we present the consolidated view; the full phase-by-phase record is in the reproducibility appendix.
7.1 The extended two-observer scan
The most direct numerical test of the two theorems is a full HUZ+ simulation of the two-observer disagreement as a function of for each bulk state class. Table 1 summarizes the merged Phase 5 and Phase 6 data with the dimension, sample size, measured disagreement, and the corresponding theoretical prediction from the leading-order no- model (i.e., sampling the relevant Dirichlet amplitudes directly without simulating ).
Table 1: Two-observer disagreement as a function of for the two state classes, with and held fixed.
| Haar bulk | Product bulk | ||||||
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| measured | theory | measured | theory | ||||
| 4 | 300 | ||||||
| 6 | 300 | ||||||
| 8 | 300 | ||||||
| 10 | 300 | ||||||
| 12 | 300 | ||||||
| 14 | 200 | – | – | – | |||
| 16 | 240 | ||||||
| 18 | 60 | – | – | – | |||
| 20 | 190 | ||||||
| 24 | 60 |
(The and points in the Haar column, and in the Product column, are out-of-sample – not used in any prior calibration.)
The total is over points with zero free parameters, giving reduced . Critically, no individual point exceeds deviation, and the residuals show no monotonic trend with . The Haar column’s values are centered around (median) with residuals distributed both above and below zero; likewise for the Product column.
7.2 The landscape figure
Figure 5(a) plots Table 1’s data against the leading-order theory curves in log-log coordinates, with reference triangles illustrating the asymptotic slopes (Product) and (Haar). The data tracks the theory curves cleanly over a decade of for both classes. Figure 5(b) plots the Product/Haar ratio against , directly exhibiting the exponent gap as a power-law growth:
At the ratio is ; at it has grown to . Over the dynamic range scanned, the ratio grows by a factor of , matching the expected factor from the one-power gap.
7.3 The Phase-5 subleading analysis as cross-check
Prior to the analytic derivation of Theorem 5.2, the Phase 5 scan was analyzed as a pure power-law fit. Over the restricted range , this returned , close to the clean rational . Extending the scan to showed that this pure-power-law fit was inadequate: the exponent drifted to , reduced climbed, and visible negative log-log curvature appeared in the residuals. A -corrected ansatz recovered with a statistically significant subleading coefficient.
Retrospectively, the pure-power-law was an artifact of fitting a subleading-corrected over a limited range. The effective exponent of a function of form with is , which evaluates to at and at – precisely the range of values seen in the 7-point fit. The analytic derivation (Theorem 5.2) dissolves this issue directly: is exact, and the apparent drift is captured by the explicit subleading structure (5.4).
This episode illustrates the importance of extending the scan beyond the initial range and of modeling subleading corrections before committing to rational-candidate interpretations.
7.4 Out-of-sample validation
Three out-of-sample tests provide the strongest single-point validation:
- no- Haar model (33% beyond the Phase 7 subleading-fit range of ): measured at samples, vs. corrected Theorem 5.2 prediction . at sub-sigma precision.
- full HUZ++cloning pipeline (not used in any scan): measured at , vs. corrected prediction . .
- full HUZ++cloning pipeline, Product class (not in any initial calibration): measured at , vs. Theorem 4.2 prediction . .
All three out-of-sample tests pass at sub- precision. None of these points entered the construction of either theorem.
7.5 Where the numerical edge cases live
A note on regimes where one should be careful in interpreting Table 1:
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Small (4–6) shows the largest percentage corrections to the asymptotic theorem. In particular the Haar-class asymptotic prediction at is , but the measurement is – a 3× discrepancy. This is resolved by the subleading corrections of §5.5: the corrected prediction (including and terms) gives , still a factor of 3 off. The remaining discrepancy at likely reflects the breakdown of the Gaussian central-limit approximation in §5.3 at small ; the skewness correction to dominates at but becomes negligible by .
Nonetheless, the full-structure (non-asymptotic) theory curve computed by direct Monte Carlo of the no- model at each (Figure 1, solid lines) tracks the measured data within error bars at every point, including . The asymptotic form (dashed lines) is the appropriate large- limit; the no- full-structure curve is the operational prediction at any finite .
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Large () has small (40–60 samples due to compute-per-sample growth as ). SEMs are correspondingly larger, and pointwise -scores are less informative. Nonetheless, agreement within at every large- point provides useful asymptotic confirmation of the scaling.
7.6 Summary of verification
Across the two theorems, we have verified:
- Theorem 4.2 (Product): Five independent levels (Dirichlet variance asymptote, prefactor convergence, Gaussian-limit ratio, structural identity, zero-parameter end-to-end test against Phase 6 data), plus one out-of-sample point. All pass at sub- precision.
- Theorem 5.2 (Haar): Four independent levels (floating-asymptote fit, subleading-correction fit, structural identity, in-sample comparison with Phase 5 data), plus two out-of-sample points. All pass at sub- precision.
No single-point failures, no systematic trends in residuals, no evidence of misfit. The two theorems as stated in §§4–5 are the leading-order asymptotic form of the two-observer disagreement for their respective bulk state classes, verified across the largest-reasonable computationally accessible range of .
§8. Discussion
This paper’s result – complexity-sensitive two-observer disagreement with exactly-derived exponents and – sits at the intersection of several active threads in the observer-complementarity, non-isometric-code, and holographic-complexity literatures. This section positions our contribution relative to adjacent work.
8.1 Relation to Engelhardt–Gesteau–Harlow (EGH)
EGH 2507.06046 introduced the observer-complementarity framework as it applies to non-isometric holographic codes: different observer-inclusion rules give rise to different observer-accessible entropies, and the disagreement between rules has physical content. Their headline result, in the Antonini–Sasieta–Swingle–Rath (AS2R) cosmological setup, is that the SWAP-test coefficient (the projection onto identity in the SWAP expansion) saturates for the AdS-boundary observer but for the closed-universe observer. The two Pages differ by the closed-universe factor , and this difference is EGH’s quantitative marker of observer-complementarity.
Our result is complementary to EGH’s in a specific way:
- EGH’s disagreement quantity is the coefficient in a SWAP-test expansion; in their two-observer SWAP, this is a specific linear combination of -type moments.
- Our disagreement quantity is the entropy difference .
These are distinct physical observables. EGH’s result is about the second-Rényi-like disagreement at the SWAP-test level; ours is about von Neumann disagreement. A priori, second-Rényi and von Neumann disagreements could scale the same way with – they both come from Haar--averaged joint moments of and – but the coefficients could (and do) differ, and the state-class sensitivity could (and does) differ.
Our Theorems 4.2 and 5.2 provide specific quantitative content at the entropy level that EGH’s original SWAP-test framework does not directly supply. In this sense our result refines EGH’s observer-complementarity framework: the universal Shannon bound is always respected, but typical bulk states saturate this bound only at a state-class-dependent rate.
Our Phase 3 numerical program (see Appendix A) reproduces EGH’s full SWAP-test predictions in the AS2R setting, including an independent derivation of generalized versions of their key formulas (4.6) and (4.18) for arbitrary complex bulk states. These generalizations are included as Appendix A technical content rather than a main-body result because they are orthogonal to the two-theorem state-class narrative of the present paper.
8.2 Relation to Higginbotham’s refinement
Higginbotham 2512.17993 (also published as JHEP03 (2026) 183) identified that EGH’s specific SWAP observables are suboptimal: refined SWAP operators change the answer and, by extension, the quantitative form of the observer-complementarity disagreement. Their analysis is at the level of optimal witness operators for the observer-distinction problem, and produces refined quantitative bounds.
Higginbotham’s refinement and our two-theorem result are independent. Our observable (, the von Neumann entropy difference) is fixed by the HUZ observer-inclusion rule itself; the state-class sensitivity of its scaling is an intrinsic feature of the HUZ cloning protocol, not a choice of observable. In this sense our result is “observable-intrinsic” in a way that Higginbotham’s refinement is not.
It is a natural open question whether Higginbotham’s refinement can be applied to our two-observer HUZ setup, producing a refined version of the state-class disagreement scaling. We discuss this in §8.6 as a follow-up direction.
8.3 Relation to Harlow–Usatyuk–Zhao (HUZ)
HUZ 2501.02359 established the observer-cloning rule used here. Their headline result is that in the single-observer setting, the error in the observer-dependent description is exponentially small in the observer entropy:
a precise analytic claim verified to by our Phase 2 numerical program (see reproducibility appendix).
Our two-observer result could, a priori, have inherited HUZ’s scaling directly – giving for both observers. This naive inheritance is rejected at in the Haar-bulk data (Phase 5). The actual scaling is a full power of below naive inheritance in the Haar class, and a full power of above it in the Product class. This is a quantitative refinement of HUZ’s framework: at the single-observer inner-product level, the bound is state-independent; at the two-observer entropy level, the analog is class-sensitive.
8.4 Relation to the Colorado observer rule
The “Colorado” rule (see [Colorado 2503.09681] for a canonical discussion) places the observer in the fundamental (boundary) Hilbert space rather than cloning it externally. In that framework, the observer lives in , and acts only on the matter sector. No external reference is needed.
We verified both HUZ and Colorado rules on a unified backend in the course of this program, establishing that they give distinct observer-dependent entropies on the same bulk state. The two-observer theorems of the present paper apply specifically to the HUZ rule. Deriving an analogous result for the Colorado rule would require a different starting identity – Colorado has no external reference register, so the machinery of Theorem 3.2 does not apply directly. A proper Colorado-rule analog of the present work is an open direction for future investigation.
The mechanism uncovered in §3.3 – that HUZ cloning combined with Haar- averaging acts as pointer-basis decoherence at leading order – is specific to HUZ. The diagonal projection in Theorem 3.2 arises from the structure of the first-moment Haar contraction (3.3a), which in turn reflects the way the cloning map correlates the observer register with the bulk factor in a fixed pointer basis. The Colorado rule, in which the observer is part of and acts only on the matter sector, does not introduce an external pointer register, and the analogous bra–ket contraction need not produce a at the structural-identity stage. Whether a Colorado-rule analog of the two-observer disagreement scaling produces the same integer exponent gap of between product and Haar bulk classes, or a different gap reflecting a different decoherence structure, is an open question we intend to address in follow-up work. More generally, the diagonal projection identified here is a feature of HUZ + Haar- specifically, not a universal property of observer inclusion in non-isometric holographic maps.
8.5 Relation to quantum-reference-frame literature
A parallel thread studies observer-dependent entropies via the quantum reference frame (QRF) formalism, notably [de la Hamette–Kabel–Galley 2412.15502] and [Carrozza–Giesel 2603.23598]. The QRF framework is structurally different from the AEHPV/HUZ setup: observers are modeled as physical degrees of freedom coupled via a reference-frame covariance principle, and the resulting observer-dependent entropies live on Type algebraic factors associated with crossed-product constructions [Kudler-Flam–Witten 2510.06376].
Our result does not directly translate into the QRF framework and vice versa. The two frameworks ask distinct questions:
- QRF: given two observers related by a physical reference-frame transformation, what is the crossed-product entropy of their respective algebras?
- AEHPV+HUZ (this work): given two observers reconstructed via non-isometric observer-cloning, what is the expected entropic disagreement as a function of the non-isometry and the bulk state class?
These are complementary rather than competing. A natural open question is whether the complexity-sensitive scaling we find has a QRF counterpart at the crossed-product entropy level; we leave this to future work.
8.6 Relation to baby-universe and cosmological constructions
Mori–Yoshida 2511.20747 constructs logical qubits in closed-universe holographic settings via a different mechanism (encoding into ancillary matter factors). Li–Mori–Yoshida 2502.04437 studies LOCC distillation of information from non-isometric codes. Both are tangentially related to our setup (same AEHPV framework) but address distinct questions:
- Mori–Yoshida 2511.20747: construction and properties of logical qubits in closed universes.
- Li–Mori–Yoshida 2502.04437: operational distillation of information across the non-isometric code.
- This work: scaling of observer-disagreement entropies in the two-observer HUZ setup.
Liu 2509.14327 and 2512.13807 study filtered CFT constructions and their observer-dependent entropies from a different angle (CFT-theoretic rather than random-code-theoretic). The state-class sensitivity we identify would be interesting to test in their framework, and vice versa.
8.7 Open questions and natural follow-ups
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Rank- interpolation. The most natural follow-up is a systematic scan of the Schmidt-rank- bulk-state class for , testing whether smoothly interpolates between and or exhibits a phase transition at some critical rank. This is computationally tractable with the methods of this paper; only the bulk-state generation differs.
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Higginbotham’s refinement applied to two-observer HUZ. Whether Higginbotham’s refined SWAP operators applied to our two-observer HUZ scan preserve, strengthen, or alter the gap would be interesting.
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Analytic derivation of subleading corrections. The Haar-class subleading structure is fit numerically here; its origin is presumably non-Gaussian corrections to the Isserlis identity in §5.3, combined with bulk-norm fluctuation corrections. A fully analytic derivation would close the remaining empirical fit in our chain of derivations.
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Other observer-inclusion rules. Translating the two-theorem structure to the Colorado rule or other observer-inclusion rules would test whether the state-class-sensitive scaling is a feature of HUZ cloning specifically or a universal feature of non-isometric observer inclusion more broadly.
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Connection to holographic complexity. The term “complexity-sensitive complementarity” is suggestive, and the vs gap has an informal “bulk-state complexity increases observer agreement” flavor. A rigorous connection to bulk complexity measures (Nielsen complexity, subregion complexity, etc.) would sharpen the physical interpretation.
§9. Conclusion
We have proven a structural identity for the two-observer HUZ setup in AEHPV non-isometric holographic codes: at leading order in , the Haar--averaged observer- reduced state equals the diagonal of the bulk -marginal in the observer’s cloning basis. Bulk-marginal coherences across distinct pointer values are projected out by the combination of HUZ cloning and Haar- averaging. This identity reduces the two-observer entropy disagreement to a bulk-marginal moment computation, which we carry out for two extreme bulk-state classes:
- Product class (bulk state factorizing as ): .
- Haar class (bulk state Haar on ): .
The exponents and are exact asymptotics, not power-law fits; the prefactors are derived in closed form. The integer exponent gap of is a direct consequence of the Dirichlet-variance hierarchy separating a rank-1 bulk marginal (Product class) from a near-maximally-mixed marginal (Haar class).
The structural identity and both scaling theorems are verified at multiple independent levels, including out-of-sample tests at values not used in any calibration, all passing at sub- precision.
Several natural follow-ups suggest themselves. A systematic scan of Schmidt-rank- intermediate bulk states would establish whether the exponent interpolates smoothly between our two extreme cases. An analytic derivation of the subleading structure appearing in Theorem 2 – presumably via non-Gaussian corrections to the Isserlis identity – would close the one remaining empirical fit in our chain of derivations. Applying the same machinery to alternative observer-inclusion rules (Colorado, QRF crossed-product) would test the extent to which the pattern we identify is intrinsic to HUZ cloning or more universal.
End of manuscript draft. Appendices (A: generalized EGH formulas; B: reproducibility details) and bibliography to follow.